Sohail Khan,
Stop feeding BS to us about PTI. I know PTI since 1995 when they had one-shop office in blue-area and this pappu senator/Jalsa anchorperson of yours use to sit there all day all by himself.
About your comment about NRP and regulatory burden:
In US, you can literally form a corporation, get it registered with SECP, get sales/use tax permits, get zoom-name approved and get business bank account opened in matter of 2-3 hours by going to any CPAs office.
Because they have government by the people for the people. Unlike Pakistan where establishment is ruling through incompetent puppets.
Enough with your louzy excuses to paint a rosy picture. PMLN did the same thing for the last 5 years. They use to turn everything in to something positive like stars were falling from heaven back then. No weren't! and they sure aren't falling now under this incompetent bunch.
Truth is you are being fooled. 20+ years of struggle of Imran Khan got hijacked by establishment. Now all we have is a dumb and incompetent civil-marashal-law in Pakistan.
I can do a postpartum of the rest of your phony arguments on economy as well but I will stop here because you seems like a paid troll of PTI and probably earning your living through this.
So carry on but always keep in mind that not everyone here will be buying your BS 24/7.
JDM,
The issue is you guys are currently seems hopeless, You are still not ready to face the reality and to surrender the free benefits used to get.
I really control myself to not come down to your level to respond on your post above and also on some of my Darbaris brothers comments, therefore deleted the words that I typed already ....
Regarding my earning, whatever but having guts to say here openly that PTI should also get same or even worst treatment if the cases of corruptions come to courts against them (I wish some real punishments to starts) , Love to see IK also to be dragged to the jails and courts if he does the same with this country as what others did so far, we few forum members believe the system will only work when we see the accountabilities (please don’t ask now to release NS and AAZ to first start the case of Alema Baji, as like her there will be thousands in country but NS was PM of the country and AAZ was the president therefore they both should be first),
yes we want first come first serve basis accountability as we are not idiot to put the blame of decades on 10 months and start calling everyone same to completely stop process and sits like hopeless Darbaris with no vision and no direction, just typing day night for 10 months without knowing or accept the real cause that bring us to this stage.
we believe on what we see and not on googling thereore like to give a fair try to new change and will decide their fate after 5 years (KPK is famous for throwing out politicians in next election who do not perform - check the history of all parties in KPK for past)
BTW - The news is they making law to keep all VIP prisoners in similar jails where normal Pakistani prisoners are kept (no A/C and garden for walk). Now please don’t be upset on this news... it won’t affect normal awam , it will only make them think twice before looting rights from 220 million.
Lastly no one buying any ones BS here, all are mature enough and knowing deep down thier hearts what is right and what is wrong.
A brainwashed will remain brainwashed no matter what logic or facts you present to them. When their sole source of wisdom is siasat pk and ARY, you just can not indulge on any logical grounds with them.
When you show them how wrong they are in everything they believe in, instead of challenging it and give counter arguments, they resort to cheap demeaning terms, bashing and name calling.
In 10 months, Donkey Raja has brought the country at the verge of collapse. And where did all those $12 bn dollars he borrowed went, no body knows or questions.
The idea of $220 bn looted is sold to them, which is beyond any mathematical equation or econometric calculation. A number so disproportionate and illogical that anyone with simple common sense would put 10 questions before buying it. Yet the zombies recycle it like a mantra. No logic or proof needed. Their common beliefs based on Arshad Sharif, Sabir Shakir and Hameed Bhatti's propaganda are:
- Failure of Nalaiq Niazi is only the fault of previous govts.
- Putting NS in jail and feeding him jail food will squeeze those $220 bn out of him.
- Shahbaz Sharif is negotiating plea bargain with Nalaiq Niazi, he is willing to give $3bn but he wants more, maybe $20 bn.
- Asset Declaration Scheme will generate trillions of Rs. If not then Nalaiq Niazi will squeeze the last drop of blood out of tax evaders.
- The list goes on.
None of these is proved to be correct so far. Doesn't make an iota of effect on brainless zombies. Coze, this is what makes them zombies afterall, the Puppets of media.!
Interestingly, most of these zombies live overseas, have zero ground knowledge, but smart enough not to send their single $ to Pakistan, despite repeated begging by their fake leader. Some of them are even considering investing $250k in Turkish property to get the nationality.!!!
See, I know you to your 'binyan' (undershirt) so do not lecture me on my politics.
Sohail Khan,
I am big boy and I can handle it. So bring it on, man!
BTW, what do you mean by "you guys"? What is that you are trying to imply here?
Fact is Nawaz Sharif's economic model was much better. He only failed to explain it to public and also failed to expose corrupt plans of establishment ahead of time. Currently all we have is Musharraf economics Part II.
Taking loans is not a big deal. US loan/GDP ratio was 105.4% in 2017 while economy was growing and unemployment was plummeting. Nawaz loan taking was fully justified especially when he eliminated load shedding and built motorway and many other projects.
Puppet Khan already took $9.6 billion external loans excluding Saudis/Emirati/Qatari money and not a single damn project to show for it.
This besharam admi tells us that after paying all the payments (defense/loan/NFC) federal government never has any money left. Someone please ask this idiot then how you say Nawaz looted when Federal government was always in the hole every fiscal year?
As far loans taken by Nawaz:
- Zero audit/investigation of CPEC
- Zero audit/investigation of nandipur
- Zero audit/investigation of Bhikhi
- Zero audit/investigation of Kachi Kinari
- Zero audit/investigation of neelam/jehlum
- Zero audit/investigation of coal power plants
- Zero audit/investigation of metro buses
- Zero audit/investigation of motorways executed by FWO
- Zero audit/investigation of flyovers built with partnerships with NLC
But still Nawaz is a chor. What a bunch of liars we voted for and believed for the last 5 years!!!
Big Boy,
no need to miss him so much, if IK is not able to deliver in his 5 years, he or Sharmili or billo will return anyway and they have nothing to do with establisment at all, also we have already seen their golden days in pakistan so nothing will be more worrying.
The logics, facts, meaningful terms and mathematics are shouting loud about country prosperity and development in every corner during past and can be seen even by blinds and brainless...but few still needs more evidences.
just wish that he do not die in jail of eating his desi foods as we cannot afford another bhutto siasat again for decades. let them all just be accountable at least.
Due to the overseas zombies most of dealers in this forum making their earnings.. waiting for ZOMBIES returns during vacation times and giving predictions of property prices rise after Eid Holidays...
they are Decedent... deceased of eating haram by lies and hypocrisy.... looting money in pakistan and sending abroad to feed thier kids by such earning.
"The logics, facts, meaningful terms and mathematics are shouting loud about country prosperity and development in every corner during past and can be seen even by blinds and brainless...but few still needs more evidences."
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We live in this country and some of us work on ground at the length and breadth of it. So we can testify to our honor that the progress made in PMLN's last time was unprecedented and sustainable. We made solid progress in infrastructure, economy, and systems development.
Your zombie brain will fail to accept for instance, that 2 of the historical achievements in Punjab were:
1) land record computerization
2) farm to market roads construction and rehab.
We can question their prioritization and we can definitely dismiss their obsession with free laptops and orange train schemes, but achievements compared to these 2 political stunts were far higher and wider.
Not like Nalaiq Niazi, who could not complete his Jangla bus in 100 bn and can not show his 1 bn trees, or 100k students moved from private to govt schools.
It's all lies, damn lies, and [no] statistics.!!!
Sohail Khan,
I do agree with you as far as corrupt property dealers are concerned. They rake millions and never pay a dime in taxes. But what have puppet Khan done about them? So far nothing because establishment will never let him go after land/dealer/investor mafia because than DHA prices will also crash down.
You want to give him more time. Well he got 5 years to fool us. Wait and watch if he ever touches Bahrias and DHAs holding all the ill-gotten wealth of tax-evaders.
Even the cherry picked Journalists and the Channel can't hide the incompetence
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وزیراعظم: پچھلی حکومت ہمارے لئے گردشی
قرضہ چھوڑ کر گئی۔
کاشف عباسی
اور ارشد شریف
وزیر اعظم صاحب، گیس کی دونوں کمپنیوں نے تو پچھلے سال منافع ڈیکلئر کیا ہے۔
(SNGPL & SSGC)
وزیر اعظم: آپ اس کو چھوڑیں، گوگل کریں
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Fanboys, you know what to do, right?
Defend Google.... time starts.
@Isloo1,
Bravo... amazed to know your achivments after 3 tenures..
If you have a chance just visit one of poor countries called Indonesia or Philipines... some pakistanis keeping thier maids also.., then compare what you got in 15 years. If you didnt got ashamed after the visit on your country and people condition , i will stop replying and will agree to what ever you say.
"We made solid progress in infrastructure, economy, and systems development"
I can only laugh on this with big full stop here for today.
Ds
Good news!
" Ustra" in action, Nawaz love bird ch Tanveer has already lost 4,000 kanal of land which was on the name of his employees.
Same goes to Omni properties in Karachi.
A lot of lunches and dinners are going to be ill digested now and it is just a start!
In Shaa Allah Pakistan is going to see it's good days pretty soon.
Fair enough but wonder how and why all of that Ustraa gets in action for opposition but not a single one (Vawda, Khusroo Bakhtiar etc.) With documentary proof of undeclared offshores & baynami not even served a notice.
Recent example is Babar Awan clearance and rest all under investigation. Even a kid can identify what is happening in the name of Ehtasaab.
Where is the Ustra that was supposed to be neutral...?
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Meet the PTI minister who purchased over a dozen luxurious properties in London
https://dailybw.com/2019/05/16/meet-the-pti-minister-who-purchased-over-a-dozen-luxurious-properties-in-london/
Meet the minister who kept Rs465 millions’ properties in his servant’s name
https://dailybw.com/2019/05/21/meet-the-minister-who-kept-rs465-millions-properties-in-his-servants-name/
2017 Tweet:
Bani Gala Residence purchased with Cricket Earnings
2019 Official Declaration of Assets and Liabilities:
Bani Gala Residence Gifted.
See here: https://ibb.co/1J9GB1K
Spot the evaders who lecture nation for each penny of tax.
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FBR Valuation for the Common vs For the Power Elite:
Entry 12: 530+ Kanal declared at 50000/-
@Sohail
"i can only laugh on this with big full stop here for today."
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Laugh as much as you want. But just calculate how many 'Khsras' are there in roughly 6,600 union councils in Punjab and how many owners of land parcels and Patwari's Lattha and Khatoi, that has all been digitized and converted to GIS-based computerized Land Record System with functional Kiosks for public to make computerized transfers and registries. Illegal stamp papers and registries 100% eliminated with computerized stamp papers. Yes, it is all happening in Pakistan, thanks to PMLN.
Beat it if you can.
If you present Independent Monitoring Unit (IMU) of Education Department in KPK for comparison, then I will tell you its PC-1 and operational plan was copied from Shahbaz Sharif's Punjab model achieved years ago.
Should I go on, or would you rather live in Fool's Paradise, watching ARY for glad tidings from Arshad Sharif, Sabiir Shakir and Hameed Bhatti.?
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"then compare what you got in 15 years. If you didnt got
ashamed after the visit on your country and people condition , i will stop replying and will agree to what ever you say."
Your problem is that your exposure is only to KPK and probably to your own city/village, where there has been no development, agreed, except for motorways, of course. If you want to see development, come to Punjab, you will see marked difference in every aspect. It was no joke to re-open closed factories and save jobs of millions of people attached to supply-chain of these factories. I have seen that happening.
You are right in your observation, because, you have seen total chaos, destroyed economy, mines/minerals sector hijacked, population displaced, law and order situation and zero infrastructure development, all in KPK. I fully understand and sympathize you brother. But it is not my fault if PMLN delivered in Punjab and PTI did not in KPK in 6 years.
(GIS=Geographic Information System).
Imtiaz SB.
Who is stopping to bring PTI currupt lot before court of law?
I am outside the country and if you are in Pakistan, let us file against anyone in PTI. I will share expenses.
Is not a history that several PTI guys resigned on charges?
That makes first time happening in Pakistan post Sikander Mirza era.
We know Imran is not " Sadiq and Amin" but we do know he is last option and if he sets things right, he is Nation's here even being a bad person in the past.
Shaikh Hasina is hated women among most of Bangla Deshis, totally currupt in elections but see how she brought BD to height?
Ayub Khan did ABDO, did worst to Fatima Jinnah which was very bad but then He made huge dams and once his development plan were requested by other countries.
کتنی دیر تک ہم لکیر پیٹتے رہیں گے۔سر جی ؟
Now best for the country is: Praise Imran's good steps and mention his bad decisions....that is then a health contribution to state.
Sir, the point is when a power corrupt does the accountability of other, its victimization and saving own skin, nothing less, nothing more.
The one who brought this puppet lot in the first place is stopping all possible means to get them exposed and in doing so getting all the control where civil institutes and rights die!
Abdul Qayyum Sb,
With all due respect ghadar-e-azam Ayub Khan sold 3 of our rivers for 8 billions back then (as per fatima Jinnah's own speech). In return he fooled the nation with so called golden promises of dams and web of canals coming out of those dams.
In Reality:
Dams were constructed by Americans because American companies needed new markets for their electric products. Generating electricity was only way companies like GE & Phillips could loot new emerging group of consumers in Pakistan & in many other countries. Remember:
فیللپس کا تارا چاماک راھا ھے
نام سع ھار یک مانگ راھا ھے
2ndly his development plan was requested because IMF/WB was using him an example to catch other countries in to similar dam projects and it was hard for American economists to convince them. So they used a puppet like Ayub. Pakistan was used as the IMF/WB case study to move American agenda in to those countries.
Ayub was that idiot who sold Pakistan to Americans for few F-86-Saber jets and few tanks, right after calling Fatima Jinnah an agent of India & America. Even before he imposed marshal-law he used Iskinder Mirza as his puppet to impose emergency in east Pakistan and do other dirty work on his behalf.
All the USAID he received was due to his decision to fight against communism and spread/protect American interests. He decided that all by himself without asking Pakistani awam.
So, I say big time lannat on Ayub Khan. May Allah send that man straight to hell-fire for the destruction he caused to Pakistan's future.
There are only 2 problem with us.
Our history is distorted and we have no character as a nation.
Everybody draws his/her own conclusions from the distorted history filled with fake heros.
As citizens we have no collective morality. No consensus on democratic norms. Majority still prefer dictatorship over democracy. So how can you achieve a system that offers freedom and human rights when oppression is the preferred choice.
While 500+ Kanal declared @ 50000/-
Can't be more truthful...
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2673681632679878&id=474512222596841