"...unless they become elite like N & Z."
An I is missing (no short of a political elite by any means) to complete the equation and to give the argument neutrality, otherwise its same political idoling... :)
The guy, being in highest office of the state cant remove/reverse illegal appointments of the most irrelevant persons from all important directorships of NADRA, NACTA etc. These and others are pure example of nepotism and corruption, and lead to the fact that top guy is either incompetent, corrupt, complicit or all. Dears that ignore that fact and still in praise compromise any neutral argument.
For sure, N & Z can be political evils but the Messiah is no short of such attribution.
@Sohail, if anti-corruption drive is across the board to root out systemic corruption and recover looted wealth, then I am with you.
But if it is politically motivated to defame someone whom you can not compete in development then I stay aside. If this is to move your incompetent Puppet forward and increase his height by hurling accusation on others, then no sane person will be with you.
Development achievement in the interrupted periods of NS and SS were simply unmatched. You can only compare it with British era. (Period)
Sohail Khan Roora, We are Immians and are on the same boat and i appreciate your earlier brainy replies.
Big big big But.......
If every Paki understands the problems highlighted by the Isloo (Islamabad) sahib in the last three replies before the above one and if those problems are addressed then we got eagle's wing......
Being STRONGER Individual or Institution does not mean to crush the other individuals or institutions.
A stronger institution or leader makes the other stronger institutions or make more leaders.
LET US RESPECT THE CONSTITUTION OF PAKISTAN as an individual or as An Institution...... We are done and will become great nation.
Isloo roora, A big big big Kafir Baba ji said once:
"Only the weak are cruel. Gentleness can only be expected from the strong."
To Musafar Jan Brother,
" It is difficult to free the fools from the chains they revere"
" Do not be worried about your difficulty in MATHEMATICS. I can assure you mine are still greater."
TO EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM
" a long summer always meant a long WINTER"========> Slick is such a beautiful nick name :)
Well said Ilyas bhai.
Regards
@Ilyas
When everyone gets a piece of your brainy quotes, then why deprive Imtiaz. Kia ye khula tezad nahin.
Look he has cut down his posts to half, he's making efforts, so why don't you.
Imtiaz sahib is a billion $ man but he needs a leader to put him in the direction he deserves....He needs to come out of employment....and start work on own idea ( right idea at the right time)...
..( Employment= Pay nuts get monkey).. he got beautiful devotion to find THE ANSWERS...... He can be millionaire or more if you give him the supervision of a good leader and fix the direction for him.. He takes all challenges ...Virat kohli is great batsman but poor captian and being guided by DHONI as captain... { with the power of google search for the right things we had earned millions and millions of $}
For a long time i was thinking to share the following link of BBC with Imtiaz sahib and to the other members and to let them know the power of google search and The strength of Imtiaz sahib........i am sharing all these things because i have passed through these ...... anyhow @PLEASE ALL: READ THE FOLLOWING BBC LINK.....
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-31356080
{Quote: "......Arguing with my 'Google search brother' is like reading the software License Agreement. In the end, you ignore everything and click " I agree"......."}
Ohhhhhhhh dear isloo..... you want me to run away to jungles........
Isloo: I take that deprivation as a blessing in the disguise :)
Ilyas has been a mate of good times, since the days USD was somewhere under 120. Byond those days, PKR started to crash and my brother started to get strengthened with accusation stuff and shying away from furnishing evidence/proof for that.
Anyway, in a digital space, we are all just opposing or complementary views & opinions and nothing to be taken as personal - maintaining spirit of community and regard (with an exception of bigotry).
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Re: Pro/Anti-google: As I stated somewhere else, I would use Google Maps to find best possible route but then I will have to fire up the engine to use that best route to reach where I need to. Its the combination that matters. Information can be plagued when the source is scam or unknown, it can be strength when backed up with verifiable evidence!
Presumably, none here has been some key (up the hierarchy) finance guy to share first-hand experience on devaluation etc. so info. reliance becomes the only option. Many of us have first-hand experience of visit/buy/sell plots/real estate stuff to share first-hand experience.
Context Matters!
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Sohail Khan Sb,
I think you totally missed Isloo1's point. Fact is that system is rigged in favor of chosen class just like it was rigged during British Era Slavery days. If you are with them, you will be taken care of, otherwise you will be scum on earth and will be humiliated on every turn of your life.
It is called "Tyranny in Government".
Sadly, Pakistan is not a free country at all. British eliminated our Muslim leadership back in 1857 war and leaders were chosen afterwards from top tiers malshias. Anyone who stood against that British Government and Royal Army was labeled as ghaddar. Even journalists like Mulaza Zafar, Johar and others were labeled as "militant journalists". Same is happening today.
In 1947, After a short struggle till the death of MA Jinnah & LAK, Pakistan was handed over to those Royal boot-lickers and awam never saw a glimpse of freedom or equality until today.
My question to you is this: All people that you just mentioned in your comments they are servants of awam, paid by awam. So why they get to have golf-courses, clubs, free houses, gymkhanas when their EMPLOYER "awam" is not getting all that?
As far them working hard and some how much more capable than rest of us. Why don't they go try their skills in Private sector in a free market economy and enjoy beemerz and benz and private golf-courses and boats all they want.
All over the world Public servants are poor and leave their jobs for private sectors. Only in Pakistan because freedom and equality never came to Pakistan.
Gora chala gaya, uskee dog washers became in control of our country. One way or another,through deceptions or by hook or by crook they are keeping us enslaved until today.
Dear JDM,
Gora chala gaya, uskee dog washers became in control of our country
App na belkul theek kha.Patwariron ka agaa been bajna ka fidha nie ha.
Regards
Nadeem Sb,
Sadly Patwaris are also victims just like us. Coming days will cause equal pain for all of us.
Bhai ya pain to feel karain ga Larkin dawai ka lia AS ior NS ka hi pass Jain ga.jino na is Pak ko noch noch kar khaa ha.
Regards
Power Corrupts never distinguish between any Patwari, Jiala or Youthia! Infact, they start the exploitation from the ones who have turned them into political idols and then move beyond!
The ones that question their political idol are automatically considered/assumed/referred to as worshiper of some other idol with no justification of their existence as lower-being!
@JDM wrote:
"British eliminated our Muslim leadership back in 1857 war..."
I disagree, there was no Muslim leadership at that time. There was a lazy-ass Mughal King, Bahadur Shah, and thousands of spoiled-brat princes and princesses who would get drunk and attend Mushaerah the whole night till early morning and wake up in afternoon only to start their hobbies, "batair bazi" and "kabutar bazi".
Muslims never had any leadership in subcontinent, only bunch of tyranical rulers of Turkic-Afghan origin with better armies and called themselves Muslims. The history that has been taught to us is all sanitized and tainted with ethno-religious bias and fervour.
The only true leaders you got were the ones of Pakistan movement, of which Jinnah stood like a tower. They shaped the nation.
Dollar climbs again.
Gained PKR 2.15 in inter-bank to cross 150.70 once again.
I still hold my prediction of 175 before 30th June. No insight, just a hunch.
Imtiaz bro, i had given you a very detailed reply for the buck $ vs realty based on my experience since 2008… thats why i had called it poor mathematics to prefer Buck $ over realty… then i had given indirect examples from practical life in isloo ( islamabad)… you kept asking for reply again and again but i reply once and you can check the history bro and standing on my words based on my realty experience as compared to buck $ in th3 long term…
Khan and its army will successfully launch a campaign and decline dollar to just 100 rs.but before it dollar may shoot to 170
@ ASAD bro.....
" Everything is better with some wine in the belly"
@Ilyas bro
"Wo Din Gye Jab Khalil Khan Fakhta Uraya Karte They"
The speed with which rupee is declining, it is better to wait till it settles somewhere and then encash your $. Realty is not going anywhere, prices are stagnant.
Your maths should factor in speed, otherwise, someone will loose heavy in trying to buying in these volatile times.
Gentlemen, in my 30+ years of working life experience I have learnt that currency speculation is best left to the professional currency traders. I have always lost money on currency and reverted back to property and shares/stocks to cover my losses.
Ilyas Bro, you must continue your Kafir baba quotes, believe me was very tired in office and after reading few of your timely posted Kafir Baba quotes i am feeling much fresh :)
Forget about advise to Imtiaz sb on earning bucks, you and isloo1 can earn alone a lot by opening your own funny political forum.... Zameen is any way not a business any more... hahahaha.