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Darkness cannot drive out darkness.only light can do that ior muja iss Roshan Pakistan ma indra hi indra nazar aa rha ha.
App Star Marketing sa yha quistion kar sakta ho jo ka Gulberg ma dara dala houa hain.
Iss Roshan project ka sara inn ka sar par saja houa ha.
Regards
Very true and I really don’t get it. There is immense need for housing and thus demand, anyone doing a fair business can make tons of money in this sector. Malik Riaz did some quality work and everyone can see where he is now and where he was before. Everyone doesn’t have to be Malik Riaz, but quality, timely and honest work even in a smaller scale with less limelight will still definitely bring in lots of profit. Alas! all are bent upon doing some fraud and all energies are spent on ways to fool others … Such is the state of all sectors in this country, not only real estate development. May Allah guide us to the right path, Aameen!
If you could throw away the corrupt management the location is good but development is pathetic…
Might be very boring write up down but it might get your interest.
Honesty never fails to pay back, never did since the inception of human race.
Why things are expensive?
Because they are rare to possess.
Think of Gold, Titanium….
Things which are free, we never even bother to think of them for our whole life span!
Oxygen…Get deprived of it for few minutes and life is gone but who thinks of its usability?
NOW!
It is cheat world and honesty is hard to find but honesty is as worthy as Gold and titanium because it is rare!
MR decided to act honestly at least in construction standards, in spite of the fact that He is famous for “hankey/phankey” but as Musafar Sahab said, “where was He and where does He stand now?
I have seen in Rawalpindi committee chowk, Sayeein “Choley Wala”, sitting right on a “gunda nala” and Mercedes cars used to get choley for their breakfast, back in mid 80s time!
He was as honest as Gold & Titanium as I was living in neighborhood and witnessed his whole night hard work, cooking his recipe.
Bab Ice cream in Multan, eatery places in old Lahore, Haq Bahoo shurbat in Pindi ……
Most recent an excellent example in DHA-2:
An army officer started building his house in DHA-2, a USA settled family bought from him at lucrative profit. He started another one, about 50% done, another family from the early connection bought this one also and asked him to complete. In front of our eyes, He started 3rd one but his wife stood right in between that no more selling, she wanted to live inside now!
There used to be miles long lines in Pindi “pung sarki” petrol pump for pure petrol back in past times!
I already told my nephew story who left his lucrative Saudi job and now earning many times more feeding pure Aataa to his customers. When He started from “a Muhalla Ataa Chukkee”, people used to laugh on his business, comparing to his Saudi job.
Now He is almost done with a semi-automatic floor mill, which would give him more than my monthly savings here in gulf!
Enough boredom, friends, I stop right here!
Might be very boring write up down but it might get your interest.
Honesty never fails to pay back, never did since the inception of human race.
Why things are expensive?
Because they are rare to possess.
Think of Gold, Titanium….
Things which are free, we never even bother to think of them for our whole life span!
Oxygen…Get deprived of it for few minutes and life is gone but who thinks of its usability?
NOW!
It is cheat world and honesty is hard to find but honesty is as worthy as Gold and titanium because it is rare!
MR decided to act honestly at least in construction standards, in spite of the fact that He is famous for “hankey/phankey” but as Musafar Sahab said, “where was He and where does He stand now?
I have seen in Rawalpindi committee chowk, Sayeein “Choley Wala”, sitting right on a “gunda nala” and Mercedes cars used to get choley for their breakfast, back in mid 80s time!
He was as honest as Gold & Titanium as I was living in neighborhood and witnessed his whole night hard work, cooking his recipe.
Bab Ice cream in Multan, eatery places in old Lahore, Haq Bahoo shurbat in Pindi ……
Most recent an excellent example in DHA-2:
An army officer started building his house in DHA-2, a USA settled family bought from him at lucrative profit. He started another one, about 50% done, another family from the early connection bought this one also and asked him to complete. In front of our eyes, He started 3rd one but his wife stood right in between that no more selling, she wanted to live inside now!
There used to be miles long lines in Pindi “pung sarki” petrol pump for pure petrol back in past times!
I already told my nephew story who left his lucrative Saudi job and now earning many times more feeding pure Aataa to his customers. When He started from “a Muhalla Ataa Chukkee”, people used to laugh on his business, comparing to his Saudi job.
Now He is almost done with a semi-automatic floor mill, which would give him more than my monthly savings here in gulf!
Enough boredom, friends, I stop right here!
This isn't boredom but rather pearls of wisdom Abdul Qayyum sahib, thank you and may Allah bless you with His special blessings, Aameen!
If possible, please share any details that you can regarding this floor mill business; with property business not in great shape currently, there could be interested audience here. Thanks again
Qayyum Sir. Salute to your way of thinking and opening another window for us to ponder upon.
Sir your write up goes to the desktop of my computer and I would print it up for my office desk as well.
Sir, may I know which country are you residing? I am currently in KSA and would like to meet you some day.
I regard your views, but we want to know updates on ROSHAN PAKISTAN by this string. Anyone have any update? please share!
Good job Abdul Qayyum sab.May Allah bless you ever and forever.
Regards
Aameen sum Aameen
Thanks all for your kind words.
TS-1: Roshan Pakistan main koiee roshni nazar naheen aatee. We visited the place jub AD waloun nain iss ko aasmaan par bithaia hua thaa. Still news are not encouraging from that place, sorry!
@Musafar Sahab
Here the people whose business runs in multi crores, will of course curse us for debating at the wrong place, wrong thread and wrong topic but I am sharing personal info only to benefit from the Halal ways of income.
This Ataa Chukkee has been discussed here before in details but once more I will give brief:
If you have small unit, costing with all (Wapda electrical connection, machinery, installation etc.< 5 lacs), at the location where there is good in/out of the people, you can get around 50,000 per month profit. One employee around 15,000 per month, daily 1 kg flour to him as a bonus if He could sell at least 3-4 Mund (40 kg) per day. Wheat crushing is additional income, you also get 1 kg per 40 kg as “Catt” from the crushed wheat plus cost of crushing and all by-products, resulting from purifying the raw wheat before it goes to the machine for final product, are salable. Shop rent must be under 8K -10K per month. This is Muhalla unit.
Here “sale” is no problem at all but “purchasing” the raw wheat, all hard work is there. No doubt wheat is available all the time in the grain market but for best taste and service and profit, you need to get wheat from the lower Punjab.
It took one year for my nephew to get accustomed with the small unit’s experience and now He is about to start his semi-automatic, around 20 lacs investment, He is confident to earn > 5 lacs per month.
The good news is that customers are everywhere, the Shadi Halls, Madaris, CSDs, Hotels, Muhallas, General stores. The list goes on…
For AD, you only need 100s of small ½ kg product package to deliver free to houses with your contacts and if you are honest in the regular delivery order’s quality, sky is the limit, gents!
How my nephew got the idea?
Was sitting with his Chukkee friend, a beggar came, took time in counting his coins and bought ½ kg of Aataa. When even a poorest man needs flour every day, how come this business could fail?
@ Fan
I am working & living in Qatar, sir
Abdul qayyum Sir…One of my friend is a mill.owner who owns a floor mill in Punjab. I never found him praising this business so much.What can be the reason? Also he usually tells me about the losses that one can usually have in this business…Although I agree that such businesses should never fail.
Thanks Abdul Qayyum sahib! I do appreciate your feedback. I dug searching for your old post as I thought you had perhaps described this before and found it. The link is here for anyone interested to review:
http://www.zameen.com/forum/discussions/buying_property/commercial_property-11289-4.html
Brother Saadi, that is a very good aspect and can help us all to learn immensely if you could ask your friend specifically how is he incurring losses and share with us here.
Apologies to the brother who is looking for updates on roshan pakistan, I think you got all the updates that could be available, so please don't mind if we continue this discussion here; if you do then say so and I'll start a new thread.
I have a renewed interest in this topic and hope that knowledgeable friends like Saadi sahib, Abdul Qayyum sahib and others can help. The reason I got interested that I got an idea through my reading a few days ago. Most if not all people reading and writing on this forum are investors. These are people whom Allah has blessed with extra income or money. They are all looking for ways to invest it and earn profits. This is all halal but there is also a responsibility towards the society in terms of what you do with your money. I think people should find ways to invest their money in ways that it create jobs for other people. This way you do business to earn profits but in the process create means for other families to earn their livelihood. Thus, please think of ways to circulate your money as much as possible, so as other humans around you can benefit too. This is, in my humble understanding, what Islam asks for. Buying plots and flipping them to earn profits is not haram but doesn’t serve this purpose. Also plots that are bought with the intention to be sold for profit are items of trade and thus subject to 2.5% zakat annually.
Bottom line, all please share ways and means to invest money for creating more jobs and have as much circulation of wealth as possible. With our country’s economic condition and widespread poverty, this is badly needed. Enabling someone to fish is better than giving them a fish to eat. Remember that we all will be asked for every rupee that we earnt as well as spent. Sharing your knowledge and ideas can become ‘sadaq e jaaria’ if anyone got influenced or learnt from it and ended up doing something good in the society, after all Allah The Almightly hears and sees all, and He knows what is inside our hearts.
@ Musafar sir…He quoted me an example. Govt of Pak allowed cheap import of substandard wheat from Ukraine sometime back. So the mills who had expensive local stock with them produced expensive but good quality atta and incurred losses as compared to the mills who imported the wheat from Ukraine to get cheaper product. Now the mills who imported this whaet usually belongs to influential people who had access to power corridors and had some insider info so they pushed the govt. To open the import of such sub standard wheat and they did not buy it locally…Sir most of the atta consumers in our country are the people who are much concerned with the price rather than quality.So many mills incurred losses this way.
Saadi Sahab
There is too much “Gund” in a full blown floor mill. I will not suggest going for the big floor mill and by the way they are banned in twin cities now. You have to deal with the quota people and so many other involved departments. If I explain here, I am a best candidate for an immediate jail sentence and fine under this newly passed IT or whatever law regarding the social media.
I am talking only about Aataa chakees and a small local made semi-automatic mill, installed in Muhallas.
When my nephew bought the stuff, He was new and was not much familiar with prices actually a Muhalla mill can be started even less than 5 lacs, WAPDA included.
For a full blown floor mill, one need to have all the attributes of being a crook and it needs at least 10 + crores of Rs, even more!
Thanks Saadi sahib for reply.