When will d-12 be populated like g-13

Hi.

Although both sectors are new but still curious to know when will d-12 be populated to atleast 50% with the provision of amenities to live in?

And will d-12 be a successful sector in the future. I ask this because as of now it has a bad location i think and people on this forum do not include d-12 in their list when giving advice to invest in islamabad

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When I came to E-11 six years back, it was a little bit more developed than what D-12 is now. By that estimate, D-12 is still atleast 5 years away.

I think D-12 is much better than G-13. Level of population at a particular time cannot determine which sector is better.

Suppose if you go to E-11 and G-11 in single day and almost same time, you would feel E-11 environment to be very clear in comparison with G-11. This part of Islamabad is only visited by residents of these sectors and their friends and family. So less rush though urban planning of E-11 is very bad.

Investors do not mention D-12 in list because it has already gained much price and less juice left.

Once D-12 markaz starts, housing will jump start expectedly

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Thanks for the info. However, can someone tell how good is D-12 for investment purpose, now or after 5 years maybe?

D-12 is a long game. I think its 35x70 and 40x80 still has a lot of juice. But it would take 3 more years to give benefit. Prices are low right now.

No use of investing in 25x40 and to some extent 30x60.

But problem is that depending on CDA for investment return is a gamble regarding time period. Gas, Markaz and street lights would be turning point for D-12.

Thanx B.R.Malik

I visited D-12 today. It seems like almost 30% houses are constructed. They have installed poles mentioning street and house addresses in subsectors 1 and 4 (difference is the st. No. Do not match with those on map like on map if its st.13 so on ground it will be like 145), roads are also carpeted to some extent (small ones), 3-4 plazas are under construction in main markaz.

Construction work is also going on in most places. Don't you think it will take a little time to get it developed, i think maybe 3 years.

and sir why 3060 has no juice. I am actually interested in buying a 3060 for investment only for a period of 3 years but based upon your statement i am now unable to decide.

Can you guide me why, so i may take an informed decision. Would you recommend going for g-13 or dha 2 instead?

and if i go for D-12 30*60, when u think after how long i can get any benefit from it.

D-12 is much better than G-13 regarding investment. 30x60 is not a vet bad size to invest but somehow I think that D-12 is heaven for big guns and burden for middle class. No transport available. One should have car with each person to reach mainstream activity area.

But all these are mix thoughts. No one is sure. But one thing is clear that 30x60 is available in D-12 for 1.20 . It will touch E-11 and surpass it surely.

You can go for 30x60 in D-12. Don't go for good location plot if premium has to be paid. Try to buy corner. It will pay you good.

Thx a lot B.R.Malik

Sir i think a 8 marla plot in E-11/2 is around 180 lac so do you mean this difference will be covered by D-12 in the future?

Also i heard that margalla avenue (if constructed) will benefit socities near G.T Road but not D-12 as it will connect the service road of D-12/3 and will not pass further on through to main islamabad.

This seems like a main drawback as traffic from G.T. Road to islamabad will be directed here and will become very crowded in this regard.

Sir i am interested in subsector 1 as its relatively cheap and 30*60 is almost next to main markaz.

Do you suggest any other sub sector or street where i can look for 30*60. Sir mostly avg. Plots ppl are asking 130+ in D-12. Its getting expensive day by day.

One guy was selling a corner in D-12/1 for 170!!!!

Thx

Corner of 30x60 must fall between 1.40 and 1.50 in D-12/1 and 4. I think D-12/1 and 4 are good for investment.

E-11/2 's 30x60 of 1.80 must be of very good location. We should compare equal locations. Yes D-12 will surely touch E-11.

Right now location matters a lot in D-12. But when plot supply becomes tight when 70-80% houses are built! location price will dilute. At that time, finding a plot would be difficult.

If I am in your shoes, I will try to buy a good deal of corner 30x60 in D-12/1 and D-12/4. Will not waste my energies in D-12/3 and D-12/2 at all.

Gap between non-corner and corner is little when plots are abundant. But this gap increases more and more when housing is increased.

@ B.R.Malik

thx a lot for sharing your experience with me. Made a lot of things clear. Just one recommendation i need is that would you prefer D-12 over DHA 2 or BE 1.

As per my analysis DHA 2 is also a good society but prices there are also increasing slowly and steadily. However, its a brand name so people love it.

I am only interested in D-12 because its under CDA and on top it has possession. It is a known fact that one point in time, soon enough, it will become a developed sector (i think no more than 5 years). And i think its price appreciation would be ahead of what maybe seen in dha 2 or BE 1 (maybe im wrong)

cda is still safe and better where possession is available unlike other societies.

If location is compared then i think DHA 2 and BE 1 lacks substance as for BE 1 its a long way to reach main islamabad and i am sure there wont be public transport there as well.

DHA is also very far but D-12 is still within main islamabad except for it is above e-11.

And D-12 is a small piece of land while BE 1 and DHA 2 are huge. If one can assume BE1 will be livable in 5 years then dont you think D-12 on that assumption should be populated within just 2 years.

Yes gas, street lights, housing and markaz will give uplift to D-12 but look at g-13, almost 7 months back most ppl said 4 marla plot has no juice left when the price of a 4 marla house was 90-100. Now its 130-140 on offer.

isnt this crazy given it was the same 7 months back as it is now?

and are there any other options in your mind which you may share for investment. Where ever i go i come back to either g-13, g-14/4 or d-12 (no othr option left) and price per marla as of now is almost the same in all.

I dont want to go to e-12, g-14/1-2-3, i-11, i-12 as they are very risky and no possession.

D-12 has just 3000 plots. Bahria Enclave must have thousands. DHA will also have a lot. How Demand VS Supply gap will put pressure to create hike in Bahria n DHA?

D-12 is still a viable option if someone can hold. Everywhere it's atleast 3 year game.

Concentrate full on buying in D-12. Don't rush. Nothing is fast at this time so time is not a problem.

The prices you mentioned in previous posts are not good.

Decision is very important in slow market. No room for mistakes. Take a right deal and relax for three years.

Thx B.R.Malik

I don't think D-12 has a bad location and the reason it is not mentioned in forums often is because of it's high price which is out of reach for many investors who want a diversified portfolio.

Even with CDA's incompetence, I consider D-12 and G-13 to be very low risk investments but with steady gains. From the start of 2014, these sectors have still gained considerable prices while the whole property market is in minus or stagnant.

If you have buying and holding power to invest in D-12, you should go for it.

Thx zol, i will go ahead to look for a decent plot here