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As they say in Cricket..... Well left.
Wishing warm Eid greetings to all dear forum members. Have a great Eid and stay safe.
Eid Mubarak to every one plz avoid politics on this forum. I noticed it’s more like a political discussion place then property forum .that’s why less new people entering to this plateform.
Eid Mubarak to All, Stay Blessed!
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Ideally yes!
Realistically its only a Chatbot that can ignore facts and only go for 2 + 2 sort responses! In Human-centric discussion and knowledge sharing, Social/Political aspect is never discounted! One cant contextualise markets and transaction-driven matters and discussion - issues that impact daily lives - by ignoring policies and politics (Currency, Administration and Personalities, etc.)
In real world, just visit any estate agent's office and see the focus of discussion dominating the conversation (10/10 times) ...
* my 2 cents or a bit more, whatever way that's interpreted :)
You cannot disconnect real estate from politics if one need honest opinion. When something is associated with political decisions and situation like in this case of PVC then senior members like Isloo, Imtiaz sb, Khalid sb and Abdul Qayum sb are right to highlight political connections from future point of view
It has become a habit to discuss politics and involve politics. It seems that the purpose is just to humiliate someone. I have also been on this platform for ten years. But now it has become a tradition. Qayyum and Nadeem Bhahi give very little political opinion. That is why everyone respects them more. After all, this is a property forum, not a political show. Sorry, the purpose is not to hurt anyone.
With due respect, its not about discussing/involving politics its simply not putting a blind eye to what happens around.
Consider most frequent questions like:
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-- What is the Future of Park View (Risks, Growth etc.)
* Can you eliminate political role of PVC Owner?
-- Where do you see BT in Next 5 Years?
* Can you ignore MRs meddling in politics and the litigations/benefits he get?
-- When will DH resolve its land issues?
* Has the authority not been politicised to where it stands the way land acquired and the affectees?
-- When will CDA improve
* Is CDA pure of any politics?
-- Which is better USD or Real Estate Investment
* Does political mismanagement not impact devaluation?
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Kindly enlighten all, about above, with any of your picking to provide a fair view by leaving out deep rooted political issues in them...?
** Yes, I do agree at times political/socio-economic debates turn to personal point scoring and mud slinging. The issue is in people not the topic and perspective of discussion
@Imtiaz sb no disagreement on any o the above points but there are ways of explaining things.
Again, when one adopts harsh way, it gives a sense of personal bias rather and we get off real topic.
I am not here to massage egos or be part of "Anjuman-e-Sataish-e-Bahimi". My only purpose here is to share my side of information as accurately as possible and analyze it crisply without sugar-coating it. Of course my analysis will be within political and economic context, and in doing so, if I steps on some tails inadvertently, than it is not my fault. JUST KEEP YOUR TAILS OUT OF MY WAY !
Respecting etiquette of the forum, I only criticize the post and not the poster. And all political figures are public property and it is my right to criticize them.
These are my rules of the game, if you doesn't agree with what I write, then you're welcome not to read it.
@ishtiaq you are true.On this platform I know some friends who have invested heavily in property and are also suffering some losses but have never said anything negative or political. So I am worried that this one It has become a political arena. Most people come here to get opinions about property. But after seeing the political debate here, they leave this forum.
Dear Shaheer,
You are 100% correct.
Have my Regards
Ishtiaq
Considering our national context, there have to be a Hyde Park (say it all), social forums or some reserved slots in them are a reasonable space to have it!
* Socio-Political discussion in a transaction-driven environment must never be a taboo, however, social/political/racial/etc. mud slinging and bigotry must be a no go, by any means!!
Peace...
Abdul Aleem Khan is re-aligning himself in the power corridors. I wonder how will it impact his PVC project? Do you guys see any cause of concern for investors?
I think rapidly changing situation warrants a fresh and updated analysis and future prediction of the projects that have political backing.
I feel personaly that If someone like that area then BE is far better, PVC will always be dependable on BE , its a small community, for any infrastructure, schools, hospitals, malls or other facilities it will alwqays be looking towards BE, so then why not BE, the prices are also almost similar, in PVC there is no living till now.
moreover compare to AD , MR is 10 times more trustable name.
Interesting thread.!
In July 2020 (above) I predicted PVC will fall with the demise of PTI govt. But Aleem Khan proved to be smarter player, he abandon the sinking ship on time, or maybe he was pushed off the deck. In either case, it was blessings in disguise as this timely political change possibly saved his skin and PVC as well.
Now, PVC has better chance of survival, though without luster. Unless, he makes the same move as he did in Lahore, that is, sell it to DHA !!!
To be honest Parkview is 100 times better than BE. Give it another 3-4 years and it will be a much more better place to live than BE. Reasons been good access , much nicer views, more greenery, nice and unique food court and a unique downtown once built. With J block, Overseas block and Golf estate of Parkview now getting developed on the other side of the existing Parkview; the society is getting bigger and bigger. I’ve personal investments in both societies but will definitely prefer Parkview over BE for personal living any day.
@arshadwazir, this is the first time I hear about the quality of the project. I should pay a more detailed visit to the project to learn about it.
Its mountain view is much better than BE, there I agree. But for the rest, I would be hugely surprised if it surpasses BE.
Park View:
Pros:
- Better Access than BE
- Available on Installments
- Commercial will have a better future once more populated
- NOC revoked/restored ON and Off but Gas shouldn’t be an issue
- Simply Dam Road Access too
- Land appears to have much less filling than BE
- Heightened part (not sure which blocks) is best in ISB (my opinion)
- Construction pace is reasonable
Cons:
- Populated much less and will take at least half a decade or more to be anywhere near to BE.
- Smaller as a society and community than BE
- The developed parts (streets sizes etc.) seem small than those in BE.
All above is ok
Only on being small township, more land buyout is in the making.
@Its_ImtiaX_88, I can’t see how PVC access is better than BE? Coze both share the same cluttered kuri road, and then afterwards both have their exclusive access roads.
PVC does not have any exclusivity on its main access. Same old pathetic access through curi road bazar…